Kathāvatthu – Luận điểm 001 – Luận cứ 01 (1.2 Đối chiếu thuận tùng)




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1. Puggalakathā

Những luận cứ  về quan điểm có chân ngã (tt)

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1. Suddhasaccikaṭṭho (Không lẫn lộn sự thật cao tột – tt)

2. Paccanīkānulomaṃ (Đối chiếu thuận tùng)

6. Puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Āmantā. Yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Na hevaṃ vattabbe.

Ājānāhi niggahaṃ. Hañci puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

Paccanīkapañcakaṃ.

7. Puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Āmantā. Yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti ? Na hevaṃ vattabbe.

Ājānāhi paṭikammaṃ. Hañci puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

Paṭikammacatukkaṃ.

8. Tvaṃ ce pana maññasi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena’ , no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti, tena tava tattha hetāya paṭiññāya hevaṃ paṭijānantaṃ hevaṃ niggahetabbe. Atha taṃ niggaṇhāma. Suniggahito ca hosi.

Hañci puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti idaṃ te micchā.

9. Ese ce dunniggahite hevamevaṃ tattha dakkha. Vattabbe kho – ‘‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’’ no ca vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. No ca mayaṃ tayā tattha hetāya paṭiññāya hevaṃ paṭijānantā hevaṃ niggahetabbā. Atha maṃ niggaṇhāsi. Dunniggahitā ca homa.

Hañci puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti idaṃ te micchā.

Upanayanacatukkaṃ.

10. Na hevaṃ niggahetabbe. Tena hi yaṃ niggaṇhāsi – ‘‘hañci puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘vattabbe kho – puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, no ca vattabbe – yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti idaṃ te micchā. Tena hi ye kate niggahe se niggahe dukkaṭe. Sukate paṭikamme. Sukatā paṭipādanāti.

Niggamanacatukkaṃ.

Dutiyo niggaho.

2. (Ka) okāsasaccikaṭṭho

1. Anulomapaccanīkaṃ

11. Puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Āmantā. Sabbattha puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Na hevaṃ vattabbe.

Ājānāhi niggahaṃ. Hañci puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘sabbattha puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbattha puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘sabbattha puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbattha puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā…pe….

Tatiyo niggaho.

3. (Ka) kālasaccikaṭṭho

1. Anulomapaccanīkaṃ

12. Puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Āmantā. Sabbadā puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Na hevaṃ vattabbe.

Ājānāhi niggahaṃ. Hañci puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘sabbadā puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbadā puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘sabbadā puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbadā puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā…pe….

Catuttho niggaho.

4. (Ka) avayavasaccikaṭṭho

1. Anulomapaccanīkaṃ

13. Puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Āmantā. Sabbesu puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Na hevaṃ vattabbe.

Ājānāhi niggahaṃ. Hañci puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘sabbesu puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbesu puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘sabbesu puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbesu puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā…pe….

Pañcamo niggaho.

2. (Kha) okāsasaccikaṭṭho

2. Paccanīkānulomaṃ

14. Puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Āmantā. Sabbattha puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Na hevaṃ vattabbe.

Ājānāhi niggahaṃ. Hañci puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena , tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘sabbattha puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbattha puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘sabbattha puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbattha puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā…pe….

Chaṭṭho niggaho.

3. (Kha) kālasaccikaṭṭho

2. Paccanīkānulomaṃ

15. Puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Āmantā. Sabbadā puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? Na hevaṃ vattabbe.

Ājānāhi niggahaṃ. Hañci puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe – ‘‘sabbadā puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbadā puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā.

No ce pana vattabbe – ‘‘sabbadā puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe – ‘‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘sabbadā puggalo nupalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā…pe….

Sattamo niggaho.

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